The Car Thread - GTHO Phase III

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Title as suggested ^_^ and holy crap I can't believe that we are already onto our 3rd thread, that's over 200 pages of car talk. We need cars.mmgn [Shifty]

For reference here's the previous threads:
First thread pc.mmgn.com/...
Second thread pc.mmgn.com/...
Car Modification thread pc.mmgn.com/...

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Thank you.

21/11/2011

right meow?

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Ren-dog

And your problem is?

I'm just saying its bull shit that the government can tell you what you can and cant drive. Just like telling you what you can and cant watch/play.

24/10/2011

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Doyl

So I suppose you should be whinging that you have to wait til you are 16 before you can apply for your learners instead of coming out of the womb and straight into the drivers seat.

Laws have their place, some are a lot more stupid than others but this isn't really one of them.

24/10/2011

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maxiboy

Doyl said: So I suppose you should be whinging that you have to wait til you are 16 before you can apply for your learners instead of coming out of the womb and straight into the drivers seat.
Laws have their place, some are a lot more stupid than others but this isn't really one of them.

I agree, coming from NSW which has strict laws and requires 120 hours before you can even get your Ps.

Ren-dog, you sound like a "learner" you don't need a V8 or a turbo, especially not when you're young. Don't take this as an insult, just life advice. You might think you're hot shit on the road but I seriously doubt you are. I'm just about on my full license, only 2 months to go; when I think about how I drive now and when I was even on red Ps there's no comparison. The thing is that death rates of younger drivers would go up crazy if they let you drive anything, it still happens even in cars which aren't turbos or V8s.
if you seriously want a turbo or V8 that badly then get something cheapish that will hold its value now, and when you're full license sell it and then get one.

24/10/2011

Sydney, NSW

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Ren-dog

I was typing up an argument but your just going to be your typical self and deny it.

I was even over 100 words. Thats the last book i ever write.

24/10/2011

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NguyenIMPROVED

I should really fix the speedo in the soarer, it fails above 60kph.

My mate knows what speed is what RPM in each gear. Found out I was doing 130-140 on the ring road... :/

Soarer power is boring now! 200rwkw not enough.

edit, oh whoops, i dont help this situation much do i... :/ (green p's. lol)

24/10/2011

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Ren-dog

Send it my way then :P

24/10/2011

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Guyver

Doyl said: This is the problem with naturally aspirated engines.
Need to pay more for less

It's true :( Turbo cars you can scab some cheap power with just a boost controller and better cooling.

Ren-dog said: Not being allowed to drive a car with a turbo.

When I was your age I was a little pissy about that as well but seeing how many young people fold their cars around stationary objects scares. What's worse is they manage to do this in stock standard cars with bugger all power.
They have to keep the power restricting in place for young people, regardless on how good you(people in general not you directly) think they are at driving the truth is that they have not have enough experience to drive a powerful car at that age.

NguyenIMPROVED said: I should really fix the speedo in the soarer, it fails above 60kph.
My mate knows what speed is what RPM in each gear. Found out I was doing 130-140 on the ring road... :/
Soarer power is boring now! 200rwkw not enough.
edit, oh whoops, i dont help this situation much do i... :/ (green p's. lol)

Got a GPS unit? Fire that up to get an idea on your speed. Not a solution to your problem but a temporary fix until you sort out the problem. At least you can avoid some speeding fines and unwanted attention.

24/10/2011

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NguyenIMPROVED

Yeah I refer to that... Sometimes... Haha. If the text on the GPS was larger it'd be great.
Cops see the car and just think its some luxo spec. Think of it as the 335i coupe. Yeah looks like a normal bmw, but cops dont know or think that people actually retune and boost those things up to go even faster than a M3.

But yes, should fix that sensor soon.

Ren-dog said: Send it my way then

You wish buddy.
Rebuild turbo and high flow them, fmic (yes, its still doesn't have one.. :P), piggy back, get around 250 out of it.

24/10/2011

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Skarteh

Ren-dog said:
I'm just saying its bull shit that the government can tell you what you can and cant drive. Just like telling you what you can and cant watch/play.

Dude that is not even in the same postcode as the same ****ing thing. You getting your jollies off violent games/movies does not affect anyone. You driving a car too powerful for your experience or skill level can mortally affect others.

Every statistic about young drivers is against that being a good idea. I hate the government trying to control anything, and I hate so, so many things in particular about how driving is handled in this country; but there is no reason at all that limitation should be lifted.

People are shit at driving here. Even experienced fully licensed drivers are commonly atrocious. There is no way known a P plater should have access to a powerful car.

A Golf TDI yes, the rules should be based on power:weight rather than a blanket ban on turbos, but I'm pretty sure you weren't going to buy something that tame.

24/10/2011

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Ren-dog

*insert arguement here*

I was looking at soarers, celicas, SS commodores, and a few other not ridiculously powerful cars.

I'm angry because the cheapest manual cars that arent hyundais are turbo of v8. And half the turbos are barely as powerful as a v6 commodore.

A maximum power output would make more sense or even as you said a power/weight restriction.

Instead of all turbos and 8's.

And if you started off driving in a pwoerfull car then you can handle a powerfull car by the time you can drive on your own.

And the whole 100 hours for your L's is bull shit, if your in a city you take an hour just to cross the road, if your in a small town you can drive around the entire town in 15 minutes.

Instead of generalizing everything they should make detailed exceptions.

Half my rants are powered by my excessive rage from being screwed by everyone in this town when it comes to trying to buy a car or get paid properly.

**** i need a new hobby. Or a new job so i can afford a hobby.

24/10/2011

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Skarteh

I agree with you on most of that dude, but not that P platers should be able to drive powerful cars. Most of them seem to write themselves off in Bogandores which aren't exactly rockets.

I was behind a guy tonight that just had me dumbstruck. First he goes from the left lane to the right lane in one motion without indicating, and then he sits in the left lane doing 90. I eventually try to overtake the car in the middle lane and get stuck behind him. He was basically swerving either side of the road over both lines, doing 85-90, perfectly matching the speed of the traffic in the middle lane so I had absolutely no way to get around him. I normally on and off tailgate people for this until they get the hint (if I'm lucky), but this guy was so incapable of driving in a straight line or maintaining a speed I kept pretty far back. Eventually I had to undertake him and I was still watching him in my mirror swerving around like he was drunk. ****ed thing was, he wasn't on his phone, he wasn't young (looked 40), he wasn't driving a Camry (VE Calais) and he in no way looked like he should be as utterly incompetent and the most basic of driving abilities as he clearly was.

If people can be a fully licensed driver and be THAT bad at driving, there is a much more fundamental problem with our driver training than the amount of hours.

Competence needs to be ruthlessly enforced by Police. No more of this 5km over in a 100 zone bullshit when they let people get away with absolute inability simply because they're not speeding. I feel safer with someone who is competently maintaining a higher speed than I do with someone who is driving slowly and still completely incapable of the task.

24/10/2011

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NguyenIMPROVED

For the love of god, stay away from soarers, you'll just be replacing shit 24/7.

A freaking cup holder costs $200 to replace!

24/10/2011

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Guyver

There are points in everyone's lives when they stop giving a s*** and drive like they are wasted. When that happens stay the hell out of their way.

24/10/2011

right meow?

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maxiboy

Saw a new SS camaro on the weekend [Derp]
Was right hand drive too, must have been a conversion.

25/10/2011

Sydney, NSW

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Guyver

maxiboy said: Saw a new SS camaro on the weekend
Was right hand drive too, must have been a conversion.

Those things are worth bugger all over there but to get one here and converted it costs a small fortune.

25/10/2011

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maxiboy

The SSs are about $32,000 over there, to buy one from performax conversions in QLD costs $140,000 last time I looked..... -_-

Hmm converted Camaro or 2 Commodore SSs?

25/10/2011

Sydney, NSW

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Huddo

i hate the conversions costing so much. what i would love to do tho is go to UK and buy heaps of used cars that are decent and you could get like 10 for $100,000 and then bring em back cos they would all be RHD.

except you would have to pay import tax and declare it as a business cos they wont believe they are all for personal use

25/10/2011

Sydney, NSW

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maxiboy

What kind of cars are worth importing?

like BMWs and Mercs?

25/10/2011

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Guyver

maxiboy said: The SSs are about $32,000 over there, to buy one from performax conversions in QLD costs $140,000 last time I looked.....
Hmm converted Camaro or 2 Commodore SSs?

The sad thing is that the car started life here. Bah for 140 grand I'd rather a late model GTS with some work done to it....like a 2 door conversion [Shifty]

25/10/2011

right meow?

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maxiboy

Guyver said:The sad thing is that the car started life here. Bah for 140 grand I'd rather a late model GTS with some work done to it....like a 2 door conversion

I know lol, and built in Canada so technically its even imported to the US.

25/10/2011

Sydney, NSW

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maxiboy

Now THIS is a hot hatch!!!!! :E

www.topgear.com/...

480HP in a lowered compact 4wd [WTF]
And they're ACTUALLY GOING TO PRODUCE IT ;O

25/10/2011

Sydney, NSW

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Doyl

That thing us just awesome.

25/10/2011

Perth - pew pew

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Guyver

maxiboy said: Now THIS is a hot hatch!!!!!
www.topgear.com/...
480HP in a lowered compact 4wd
And they're ACTUALLY GOING TO PRODUCE IT

A little too lumpy for my likings.

Here's a oldish video about the Veyron engine, pretty interesting seeing it from that angle www.youtube.com/... but they way this guy pronounces "Veyron" makes it sound like a French desert or something.

25/10/2011

right meow?

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maxiboy

Boogotti Veyrol :P

Whoever wrote the script knows nothing about cars.

cubic litres? RPMs? turbo supercharghers?

26/10/2011

Sydney, NSW

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Skarteh

maxiboy said: Now THIS is a hot hatch!!!!!
www.topgear.com/...
480HP in a lowered compact 4wd
And they're ACTUALLY GOING TO PRODUCE IT

Is that a dualis? Either way it's batshit ugly... But then it's a Nissan so that pretty much goes without saying. Why can't they make good looking cars anymore??

26/10/2011

Melbourne, Victoria | Walk with me in hell